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« on: 13 March 2017, 09:58:21 am »

Mates,

I have been looking at why soldiers were gaining commissions in the LH during the war. While most of this area is covered else where, little is known of why men were being prom?

The first officers to gain commission happened in 1915 during the fighting at Gallipoli.

Who were they prom?

From what I can see there was no reason why, sure many of these men had some education (uni and such), but many didn't, and were prom from there CMF expirences, or some employment that commanded groups of men, like overseers. While this was not always the reason?

Clearly the idea, that we prom from the ranks in untrue, while a very small number of Pte soldiers were commissioned, most were to the Infantry not the LH, these were drawn from the NCO ranks or more closely from the SNCO ranks.

Yes a small number of Pte soldiers gained commissions in Infantry Bn's while at Anzac, and the odd man to the Engineers few became LH officers?

close to 90% or more were commissioned from the NCO ranks.

How were they prom?

It appears that while some officers names were submitted to higher HQ (Bde and some times Div) these were only to inform them that the commanding officer was doing and he had the power to prom officers?

No formal training was for officers, other then what they learned during there limited service in the AIF or any pre war expirences either in the CMF or in civilian life?

What problems this caused was not seen in many officers, while there were failures, most went on the greater things.

After Gallipoli, CO's continued to prom officers in the field, again not formal education (military) is shown in their records and during 1916 and 1917 new officers were continuing without any training as such.

This changed during 1916, when officers were being sent to the (Imperial) school of Instruction at Zeitoun, this was due to intro of the new Officers General course, which later with a new Cavalry officers course. A small number of new officers were sent on these, while not all were, and some older prom officers (between 1915-16) also were sent, but again not all.

So the training levels on many officers must have been limited or more correctly what they leaned on the job and they did very well to a degree.

British officers during 1917 were being sent to the new OCS at Zeitoun and in December 1917, we sent our first group of men to this OCS school, where they took three months to lean to be officers. This was in difference to the Cavalry and officer general courses that lasted for about one month?

This continued into 1918, but to confuse the issue some new officers were being sent to what was called, the Jnr Officers course at Kelab. while this school gave the officer some training it was only about one month?

an Interesting coment in the 4th LH Bde war diary dated May 1918 shows what could have happened , but didn't always?

dated 26-5-18 (an early order had asked for 13 candidates for OCS)

GOC 4 LH Bde to interview candidates for admissions to officer cadet unit;

T/Cpl Brodie 4 LHR  
Sgt Cruckshank 4 LHR
Sgt  Rede 4 LHR
Sgt Whitfield 4 LHR
SSM Griffiths 11 LHR
Sgt Billington 11 LHR
SSM Adams 11 LHR
Sgt Allan 11 LHR
Sgt Smith 12 LHR
RSM Finlayson 12 LHR
Arm/Cpl Eyre 12 LHR
Sgt Haydon 12 LHR
Sgt Keay 4 MGS
L/Cpl Taylor 4 MGS
Wo1 Story 4 LHFA

Follow this interview the following names were withdrawn;

T/Cpl Brodie
Sgt Allan
Sgt Smith
Sgt Keay

But the records show that later did go on another course

SMITH   Nathaniel Henry   380   Pte   12 LHR   B Sqn 4 Troop? att DSqn/7 LHR 8-15 (G) rtn 2-16 to L/Cpl 5-16 to Cpl (from Court) 6-16 to T/Sgt (from Robb) 6-17 revert 8-17 to L/Sgt 8-17 att scout (for admin) 11 LHR 9-17 to Bde scout Sgt 4 LH Bde HQ 10-17 MM - for his actions as a scout at Wadi el Sufi 2-10-17 (B) rtn Sgt B Sqn? 4 Troop? (from Robb) 31-10-17 to cadet OCS Zeitoun 8-18 prom 2/Lt 1-19 rtn C Sqn ? Troop 2-19 (D Troop ASqn/11 LH CMF 4 years later WWII )


But this list does show the main source of officers were SNCO's;

1x L/Cpl
2x Cpls
8 x Sgts
2 x SSM (Wo2)
2 x RSM (Wo1)

So what qualifications did Nat Smith have to be an officer?

He is recorded as a Labourer (in civil life), so not civil reason (education) for prom, while he did have 4 years pre war service in the CMF LH, his main reason was his very interesting Military career to date, a brave and intelligent man no dought helped by his pre war training?

Just to show the lowest rank in that list

TAYLOR   Vernon Aubrey   624   Pte   12 LHR   C Sqn att DSqn/6 LHR 8-15 evac to hosp (influ & enteric) 11-15 (G) RTA enteric relist 16R/6 LHR to 2 LHTR 6-16 tos CSqn/12 LHR 7-16 to MG Sect 11-16 to 4 LH MGS 2-17 to L/Cpl (from hassall) 5-17 (B) to cadet OCS Zeitoun 7-18 prom 2/Lt 15-12-18 rtn 4 LH MGS 3-19

Taylor is shown as an overseer in civil life, while he had no CMF training, he has not shown any other reason to be an officer, like higher rank or an award, so why prom him over say Nat Smith?

Compare to the other 4 LH MGS candidate;

KEAY   William James   1914   A/Cpl   11 LHR   11R Tos 10-16 to 4 LH MGS 2-17 to L/Cpl 5-17 to Cpl 9-17 to Sgt 11-17 recom MID - for his actions at Black Hill near Es Salt 1/3-5-18 (Boer War Cpl CSqn/1 NSWMR (330) AKA William James Fraser Keay

We may never know?

More to follow
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« Reply #1 on: 19 March 2017, 10:40:56 am »

Zeitoun

I have been trying to track down more on this place but Aussie records are short on of this British Training Area.

But the AOWH by Gullett has some details page 533.

But he stated 1918 we started to send cadets there in Dec 1917.

Zeitoun was a large British training Area, courses were going on there for NCO's and officers, these included the skill at arms courses like, Musketry, and MG (Lewis, Hotchkiss and Vickers) courses. They also ran fighting courses like bayonet, trench warfare and bombing courses. Then they also ran the prom courses for NCO and officers like the cavalry and Officer general courses as well as a Topography course for officers. An interesting course for NCO's and officers was the Range Finding/Taking course.

I am sure I missed some of those courses, as finding a list of the units there, and what they did has been a problem, But both officers and NCO (with some soldiers) spent some time at this place leaning the skills of a soldier and officer in the Army.

As to war went on, the appointment of officers was made more formal, this included the introduction of a form (no name or number) or Application in 1916, from the CO, to the Bde commander, then Div commander, see personal file page 24 for this officer;

GREGORY   Stanley Edmund   305   Cpl   01 LHR   B Sqn WIA 24-7-15 R/arm shrapnel in Monash Valley evac to hosp 8-15 (G) RTA wounded reemb A/Sgt 16R to 1 LHTR 6-16 tos Cpl - T/Sgt (from Weston) B Sqn 7-16 revert to Cpl 8-16 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop (from Capt Harris WIA) 16-9-16 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 1-17 to hosp (rectum) 5-17 rtn 7-17 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 9-17 to 2ic C Sqn 10-17 to RHQ 12-17 rtn B Sqn 1-18 shown t/att liaison officer 181 Bde 3-18 rtn possibly B Sqn B Troop? 4-18 shown T/OC B Sqn 7-18 MC - for his actions at Abu Tellul 14-7-18 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 8-18 shown t/att Adjt RHQ 11-18 (C Troop ASqn/11 LH CMF)

This also came in another form see page 54 this mans file;

EGAN   John Bede   49   Pte   01 LHR   A Sqn D Troop? tos 8-15 (NP) to L/Cpl 10-15 to T/Cpl (from Gardiner) 10-15 to Cpl (from Wright) 11-15 (G) to Sgt A Sqn A Troop 1-16 att WFF to SSM A Sqn (from Mckeown) 7-16 recom MID - for his actions at Romani 4-8-16 prom 2/Lt B Sqn? A Troop? (from McQuiggin KIA) 7-9-16 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 2-17 rtn 3-17 WIA 20-4-17 R/thigh bomb reported Lt Egan and two men wounded when bombed in air attack near Wadi Sheikh Nuran RTA wounded disch 16-10-18 amputated R/leg brothers Francis 6 LHR and Herbert FAB

These forms (both types) were only used for a short period during 1916, then they disappear. Again not all officers have these forms, so were all new officers names sent to Bde and Div commanders for approval, as there records don't show that?

(sorry have to go more to follow)
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« Reply #2 on: 01 May 2017, 08:36:37 am »

But lets start with 1915.

During 1915 on Anzac large numbers of men gained commissions, none went on any officers courses during their stay on Anzac or on any types of officers courses, other then one man I found who did a MG officers course on Mudros during Nov 1915.

Most of these men never did any officers courses during the war (post Gallipoli), while some did do these in later years, there was no general course these officers took part in other then on the job training.

One interesting point from this time was the large prom's during August 1915, in particular before and after 7 August 1915, this happened only one other time in the LH and that was pre and post Beersheba.

Its is understandable considering the death, wounding and illness during August 1915, but it was an amolity.

1916,

The first officers courses began around March 1916, or so my records show. I have four officers from the 2 LHR and one from the 5 LHR sent to Zeitoun for possibly officers courses;

CAMPBELL   Archie Eric Gordon    309   Pte   02 LHR   B Sqn WIA 14-7-15 wrist shrapnel at Popes Post evac to hosp rtn 10-15 to SQMS B Sqn (from Gore) at Murdos 12-15 (G) att WFF prom 2/Lt possibly B Sqn? ? Troop 1-2-16 t/att Officer Trg School Zeitoun 3-16 to 11Co/3Bn ICC 7-16 Croix de Guerre (F) - reason not stated prom Capt 2Co/1Bn 4-17 MC & MID - for his actions in the fighting at Tank redoubt at 2nd Gaza 19-4-17 att Staff duty Cml Bde HQ 9-17 att Staff duty HQ Yeomanry Mounted Div 10-17 to Adjt HQ/1Bn 1-18 prom Maj BSqn/14 LHR 7-18 DSO - for his command during the advance at Salahiye RTA 1914 leave later the AMP representative at Toowoomba and later Dalby (Qld) AKA Archibald Eric Gordon Campbell father Sir Walter Campbell AC QC

ELLWOOD   Robert Edward   508   Sgt   02 LHR   C Sqn shown A Sqn 5-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop (from Tiddy A Sqn) 30-6-15 (G) att WFF att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 3-16 rtn 4-16 possibly C Sqn B Troop? 7-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 to Adjt RHQ (from Wasson) 1-17 prom Capt (from Handley) 7-17 WIA 31-10-17 back shot at Beersheba to 1 LHTR 1-18 att school of Instruction (Musketry instructor & range finding course) Zeitoun 2-18 rtn 1 LHTR 4-18 rtn ? Sqn ? Troop 7-18 to hosp (debility) 9-18 rtn 11-18 RTA 1914 leave (prov 2/Lt C Troop CSqn/1 LH 1-4-14 to Lt 1-7-15 CMF 1 year to Maj 5 LH 31-3-21 to RofO 1-7-22 later WWII LtCol 5 LH) born 15-10-93

WELLER   Horace Andrew   224   Pte   02 LHR   A Sqn evac to hosp Mudros (cholic) 8-15 rtn 12-15 (G) att WFF prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop 1-2-16 T/att officers Trg School Zeitoun 3-16 to B Sqn ? Tropop 5-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 1-17 rtn 2-17 att understudy to staff Capt 1 LH Bde HQ 4-17 rtn 7-17 shown his Troop with Anderson's att 01 LHR after Tel el Saba fell for advance into Beersheba 31-10-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 12-17 rtn 1-18 to hosp (L/knee injury playing football) 2-19 (2Sqn/15 LH QMI 23-5-10 to 27-4-12 CMF later WWII LtCol VDC) brother Frank 11 LHR

WETHERELL   Henry   633   Pte   05 LHR   C Sqn to Orderly Room Sgt RHQ 12-14 prom 2/Lt (from Kennedy) 14-11-15 to Adjt RHQ (from Newton) 11-15 (G) T/att school of Instruction (possibly officer general course) Zeitoun 3-16 T/att school of Instruction (possibly cavalry course) Zeitoun 4-16 revert 4-16 to B Sqn ? Troop 4-16 att school of Instruction (hotchkiss MG course) Zeitoun 3-17 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 8-17 prom Capt 2ic B Sqn? (from Lyons) 10-17 to OC ASqn/2 LHTR 12-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 1-18 rtn ? Sqn 4-18 to 3 weeks UK leave 8-18 to hosp (influ) 10-18 rtn Egypt 5-19 later WWII

WOODYATT   Percy Severn Roy   281   Cpl   02 LHR   B Sqn to Sgt (from Glaxtow) 7-15 prom 2/Lt B Sqn C Troop (possibly from Burge KIA) 11-8-15 (G) att WFF att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 3-16 rtn 4-16 reported killed on Wellington Ridge at Romani buried Kantara War Memorial Cemetery Egypt (Qld Rifles A Troop CSqn/15 LH QMI CMF 2 years) brother Montague 9Bn

PS. Sorry about the "unknown" as the records don't show what courses they went on, but curtain dates line up its possible all were on an officers course?

There are no details in the Regt (2 LHR) war diary or the 1 LH Bde war diary, like wise the Anzac MD war diary is quite, but considering the Anzac MD was just forming that is understandable.

Large numbers of LH soldiers gained commissions during this time, with the forming of the 4th and 5th Divisions, officers were needed in the Artillery, TM (trench Mortors), MG Companies, Service Corps units and Ammo Column, as well as the many Infantry units. None that I could find went to any officers course around this time. So were our five officers the first lucky ones?

April 1916

The next month a number of officers were sent for a mixed bag of courses, none appear to be officers general courses;

COXALL   Frederick Walter   7   Sgt/Sig   03 LHR   RHQ to RSM RHQ 6-15 prom 2/Lt B Sqn ? Troop 11-8-15 (G) att WFF to Sig officer RHQ 3-16 T/att school of Instruction (unknown possibly Sig course) Zeitoun 4-16 to 5 weeks UK leave 9-16 rtn 11-16 to A/Adjt RHQ (from Bennett) 3-17 to Adjt 1 LHTR (from Warren) 5-17 to Instruct staff ATD 10-17 rtn 2 LHR 10-17 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 10-17 rtn 11-17 prom T/Capt 12-17 to ATC&DC 4-18 RTA 1914 leave (S/SM A&I staff 5-1-14 PMF to Hon/Lt 1920 disch 30-6-22) (British Royal Canadian Arty 31-8-91 to 11-5-94 to 4th (Queen's Own) Hussars 21-5-94 to 19-4-09 LS&GCM) (A&I staff CMF)

MacPHERSON   Lachlan Alfred William      Lt   8 LHR     10R tos B Sqn B Troop? 12-15 (G) att school of Instruction (vickers&maxim MG course) Zeitoun 4-16 shown T/att Bde Transport Officer 3 LH Bde HQ 11-16 att school of Instruction (unknown (cavalry) course) Zeitoun 2-17 rtn 3-17 WIA 19-4-17 R/shoulder shot at 2nd Gaza rtn 6-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 8-17 to Scout/Intell officer RHQ 10-17 prom Capt (from sproat) 11-17 MC - for his actions at El Burj 30-11-17 to OC ASqn/3 LHTR 1-18 rtn to A/Adjt RHQ 4-18 rtn 6-18 att Staff Capt Training 3 LH Bde HQ 6-18 prom Maj OC A Sqn 9-18 DSO & MID - for his work at Tiberias 26-9-18 & Sasa 29-9-18 att Staff 3 LH Bde 5-19 Ex LH depot prom 2/Lt 1-6-15

MAHONEY   Bernard      Lt   05 LHR   2R Tos 4-15 tos C Sqn 7-15 (G) to Sig officer RHQ 3-16 att school of Instruction (Sig course) Zeitoun 4-16 att school of Instruction (telephone course) Zeitoun 6-17 WIA 28-11-17 minor shrapnel at Bald Hill prom Capt 2-18 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 2-18 rtn 4-18 to OC ASqn/2 LHTR 4-18 to 2ic 2 LHTR 8-18 att 2 LH Bde HQ 1-19 to paymaster Anzac MD HQ 2-19 to UK leave 8-19 to NME UK university tutorial Ex Pte FCo/1Bn AN&MEF (735) DNE prom 2/Lt 24-10-14 (prov 2/Lt CSqn to D Troop ASqn/1 LH CMF)

ROBERTSON   Geoffrey Ochiltree   607   Pte   9 LHR   C Sqn evac to hosp (rheum) 6-15 rtn to L/Cpl 10-15 prom 2/Lt A Sqn ? Troop (from Miles B Sqn A troop WIA) 3-11-15 (G) att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 4-16 rtn 5-16 shown C Sqn ? Troop 8-16 WIA 9-8-16 abdomen shot at Bir el Abd died at 26 CCS buried Kantara War Memorial Cemetery Egypt

TOOTH   Owen William   475   Pte   6 LHR   C Sqn A Troop (949) to L/Cpl 9-15 to prov Cpl 9-15 to T/Sgt 10-15 revert 10-15 prom 2/Lt A Sqn ? Troop (from Ryrie) (shown in RO's) 19-11-15 (G) to 2 LHTR 3-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 4-16 rtn C Sqn ? Troop 5-16 shown C Sqn ? Troop 4-17 att school of Instruction (topo course) Zeitoun 8-17 rtn 9-17 killed on raid at Bald Hill or Hill 265 or One Tree Hill buried by Chaplain Maley reburied Ramleh War Cemetery Palestine brothers John 6 LHR KIA, Arthur 17Bn and Stewart 6 LHR

WETHERELL   Henry   633   Pte   05 LHR   C Sqn to Orderly Room Sgt RHQ 12-14 prom 2/Lt (from Kennedy) 14-11-15 to Adjt RHQ (from Newton) 11-15 (G) T/att school of Instruction (possibly officer general course) Zeitoun 3-16 T/att school of Instruction (possibly cavalry course) Zeitoun 4-16 revert 4-16 to B Sqn ? Troop 4-16 att school of Instruction (hotchkiss MG course) Zeitoun 3-17 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 8-17 prom Capt 2ic B Sqn? (from Lyons) 10-17 to OC ASqn/2 LHTR 12-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 1-18 rtn ? Sqn 4-18 to 3 weeks UK leave 8-18 to hosp (influ) 10-18 rtn Egypt 5-19 later WWII

May 1916,

Possibly the first Officers General course shown this month and only one officer was sent, again a 2 LHR officer?

McDOUGALL   Malcolm Dines   365   Pte   02 LHR   B Sqn WIA 14-5-15 L/arm & buttock bomb posibly wounded with Lt Boyd and 32 men at Quinns Post rtn 6-15 to Cpl (from Linton) 7-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop 11-8-15 (G) to hosp (head injury reason not stated) 12-15 rtn 1-16 att WFF T/att school of Instruction (officers general course) Zeitoun 5-16 to OC BSqn/1 LHTR (from ogilvy) 10-16 to QM RHQ/1 LHTR (from Warren to Adjt) 12-16 rtn C Sqn 2-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 6-17 rtn 7-17 prom Capt (from Brown) 8-17 to staff Capt training 1 LH Bde HQ 9-17 rtn 2ic C Sqn 11-17 shown T/OC A Sqn 3-18 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 4-18 rtn 5-18 shown T/OC C Sqn 6-18 WIA 9-7-18 minor at Abu Tellul & MC - for his actions at Abu Tellul 14-7-18 to hosp (malaria) 8-18 rtn 10-18 AKA Malcolm David McDougall later WWII Capt VDC

Mal McDougall shows the full range of officers courses (officers general, Cavalry and Topo), most officers should have been sent on, but few were. He misses only one other course which you will see other officers went on, but that as others were extras for an officer like (MG, range finding and others).

June 1916,

We start these extra courses;

MALCOLM   Harry   953   Pte   6 LHR   5R tos RHQ 10-15 (G) to B Sqn 2-16 to Instructor MG school of Instruction Zeitoun 6-16 to T/Cpl 8-16 to T/Sgt 12-16 T/att 156 MG Co 3-17 T/att 265 MG Co ICC 3-17 T/att 21 MG Sqn 7-17 T/att 67 Sqn (1 Sqn) AFC 11-17 to MG Trg School 1-18 MSM - for his work valuble services at MG Trg School revert to Pte 2 LH MGS 4-18 to L/Cpl (from Williams) 5-18 to cadet OCS Zeitoun 10-18 prom 2/Lt 1-19 rtn 3-19

WRIGHT   Maxwell Edward   576   Pte   01 LHR   A Sqn shown WIA 2-6-15 reported WIA 3-6-15 R/arm & hand bomb with 4 wounded over two days at Popes Post (NP) rtn 8-15 to Cpl (from McDonald KIA) 8-15 to T/Sgt A Sqn (Tierman) 10-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop (from Kirby) 14-11-15 (G) att WFF att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 6-16 rtn 7-16 recom MID - for his actions at Romani 4-8-16 att school of Instruction (hotchkiss instructor course) Zeitoun 2-17 rtn 3-17 to A/Adjt RHQ 3-17 prom Capt (from Harris) staff officer 1 LH Bde HQ 7-17 rtn Adjt RHQ (from Kater) 9-17 T/att Anzac MD HQ 10-17 shown T/att Bde duties 1 LH Bde HQ 10-17 att staff Capt 2 LH Bde HQ (from garrnock) 4-18 rtn Adjt RHQ/01 LHR 5-18 MC & MID - for his actions at Baiket el Sana during 2nd Gaza 19-4-17 Egyptian Order of the Nile 4th class - reason not stated

July - Sept 1916,

PARRY-OKEDEN   David Herbert   672   Dvr MT   2 LH Bde HQ   HQ (MT) att 1 Div HQ 11-15 (G) to Cpl 12-15 to L/Sgt 12-15 to AQMG branch HQ Anzac MD 3-16 to T/SQMS 4-16 prom 2/Lt 12 LHR 1-7-16 to 14Co/3Bn ICC 1-7-16 T/att school of Instruction (officers course) Zeitoun 7-16 to cadet 3 SMA Aboukir 11-16 prom Lt 12-16 to 19 Sqn RFC 6-5-17 (pilot) Spad 7 WIA 25-5-17 L/shoulder and face shot possibly on patrol in France prom Hon/Capt Flight/Ldr 8-17 F&B RTA wounded disch 2-2-18 later WWII AKA Herbert David Parry-Okeden brother Uvedale Capt MC AASC

HARDY   Holt   129   Pte   6 LHR   A Sqn B Troop (251) to L/Cpl 8-15 to prov L/Sgt 8-15 to prov Sgt 9-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn D Troop 6-10-15 (G) T/att school of Instruction (Lewis MG course) Zeitoun 9-16 shown for his Regt football team from C Sqn at Hill 70 11-16 att school of Instruction (hotchkiss Instructor MG course) Zeitoun 2-17 rtn 3-17 shown T/att to Maj Cross A Sqn at 1 Gaza 3-17 shown C Sqn ? Troop 4-17 recom MC awarded MID - for his work checked water supply at 1st Gaza and his work between March to Sept 1917 & MC - for his actions in raid at Bald Hill 3-12-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 7-17 rtn 9-17 att school of Instruction (Tactical course) Zeitoun 7-18 to hosp (debility) 7-18 prom Capt while seconded 8-18 RTA MU dibility disch 18-5-19 later WWII AKA George Holt Hardy

PHELAN   Edmund   176   Sig/Cpl   9 LHR   A Sqn evac to 15 BSH Mudros (dysentry) 6-15 rtn 7-15 (G) to T/Sig/Sgt RHQ 1-16 to Sig/Sgt 3-16 prom 2/Lt Sig officer RHQ 12-4-16 att school of Instruction (19th officers general course) Zeitoun 9-16 rtn 10-16 WIA 19-4-17 L/arm shot in fighting at Atawine Redoubt at 2nd Gaza rtn 5-17 to hosp (deafness) 10-17 disch 2-4-18 MU neurasthenia

SNOW   George   139   Sgt   7 LHR   A Sqn to SSM A Sqn 12-14 to RSM RHQ 6-15 prom 2/Lt B Sqn ? Troop 5-10-15 (G) shown C Sqn B Troop (unit RO's) 1-16 shown C Sqn A Troop (unit RO's) 2-16 shown C Sqn C Troop (unit RO's) 3-16 shown C Sqn A Troop? 5-16 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 9-16 shown C Sqn B Troop (unit RO's) 11-16 to T/Adjt RHQ 12-16 att school of Instruction (hotchkiss Instructor MG course) Zeitoun 2-17 rtn 3-17 mentioned his C Sqn Troop detach to WMR at 1st Gaza & MC - for his use of a Hotchkiss MG at 1st Gaza 26-3-17 T/att 116Co Rlwy Constr RE 7-17 FGCM 22-1-18 behaving in a Scandalous manor passed dud cheques sentenced to be Cashiered (all medals forfit & MC was withdrawn by the King) RTA disciplinary relist Pte 3 GSR NSW (53511) to 14 Trg Bn UK 7-18 tos L/Cpl 53Bn 10-18 to T/Cpl 4-19 to A/Sgt 5-19 F&B (D Troop ASqn/13 LH CMF 1 year) AKA real name George Charles Cawsey

Clearly many men were gaining commissions in the LH during 1916, but not many officers were being sent to officers courses. All this changed next month as officers began to be sent away for courses.
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« Reply #3 on: 02 May 2017, 08:15:13 am »

The intro of the new Lewis gun in late 1916, allowed these weapons to the LH, but soon they were found poor mounted weapons and with drawn;

Oct 1916,

BEATH   Herbert Henry   39   SSM   8 LHR   A Sqn prom 2/Lt A Sqn ? Troop 7-8-15 shown in Simpson WIA 19-9-15 at Canterbury Slope N/R? (G) shown T/OC A Sqn 1-16 prom Capt 2ic B Sqn (from hoare) 2-16 shown to C Sqn 3-16 rtn OC A Sqn 7-16 WIA 9-8-16 injured in horse fall after being shot at Bir el Abd att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 10-16 rtn 11-16 to OC DSqn/3 LHTR 2-17 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 5-17 rtn 6-17 disch 7-12-17 reported SNLR with Lt Oliver died TB at Caulfield Vic (Boer War Sth African Constabulary and Royston's Horse Natal Rebelion 1906)

CLOSE   Douglas Campbell   415   Pte   6 LHR   C Sqn B Troop (965) prom 2/Lt A Sqn B Troop 4-8-15 (G) prom Capt 2ic B Sqn (from Jordan) 9-16 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 10-16 rtn 11-16 to 2ic C Sqn 2-17 to hosp (appendix) 5-17 rtn 8-17 recom MC awarded MID - for his actions on raid at Bald Hill 3-12-17 att Staff Capt training 2 LH Bde HQ 3-18 prom T/Maj OC C Sqn 5-18 to 1914 leave UK 11-18 rtn 2-19 prom T/Maj 2-19 revert to Capt to hosp (old L/arm injury) 3-19 rtn 4-19  later WWII

COWELL   Leonard James      2/Lt   03 LHR   12R Tos A Sqn 12-15 to C Sqn 1-16 att WFF T/att school of Instruction (Sig course) Zeitoun 10-16 to Sig/officer RHQ (from coxall) 3-17 to Staff ATC&DC 9-17 prom T/Capt 1-18 to hosp (DAH & influ) 4-18 RTA MU neurasthenia disch 23-12-18 Ex A/Sgt DSqn LH depot prom 2/Lt 15-7-15 (orderly room Sgt RHQ/22 LH CMF 18 months)

DAVIS   Roy   51   Dvr   01 LHR   MG Sect (NP) to T/L/Cpl (from barnes) 8-15 to T/Cpl 9-15 att AA Sect 11-15 (G) att WFF to Cpl - Transport T/Sgt 1-16 to Sgt (from burgess) 5-16 prom 2/Lt 1 LH MGS 28-7-16 T/att school of Instruction (MG instructor course) Zeitoun 10-16 to 4 Sect? MC & MID - for his actions at Magdhaba 23-12-16 and at Rafa 9-1-17 WIA 19-4-17 R/foot reported one officer and 7 men wounded holding Turkish advance near Hareira at 2nd Gaza T/att school of Instruction Zeitoun 8-17 RTA 6 weeks leave rtn OC 6 Sect 6-18 T/att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 8-18 prom T/Capt 2ic 3 LH MGS (from chanter) 4-19 to hosp (appendix) 5-19 RTA MU appendix (4Bn 1909 to 1912 to MG Sect/9 LH 1913 also shown 11 LH CMF)

LAND   John Norman      2/Lt   05 LHR   9R att C Troop BSqn/Comp LHR 11-15 tos A Sqn ? Troop 1-16 to Troop officer ASqn/2 LHTR 9-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 10-16 rtn 11-16 to QM 2 LHTR 9-17 prom Hon/Capt 3-19 to UK leave married Nurse Sara Cassell QAIMNSR at Port Said Egypt 26-2-17 disch 26-2-20 Ex Sgt prom 2/Lt 24-8-15 (2Co AGA Townsville CMF 4 years later WWII Capt The Welch Regt British Army )

MACK   Ernest Harold   66   L/Cpl   8 LHR   A Sqn A Troop prom 2/Lt possibly B Sqn? ? Troop 7-8-15 evac to hosp UK (dysentry) 8-15 (G) rtn 3-16 att school of Instruction (MG instructor course) Zeitoun 10-16 T/att 3 LH Bde HQ 11-16 WIA 23-12-16 R/thigh shot at Magdhaba shown KIA died in NZFA buried near Telegraph line by chaplain Williams reburied Kantara War Memorial Cemetery Egypt brothers John & Stanley 8 LHR and SubLt J Mack RAN

MORT   Henry Chisholm      2/Lt   05 LHR   16R to 2 LHTR 5-16 to 2 double sqn 7-16 att school of Instruction (19th officers general course) Zeitoun 10-16 to Troop officer 4 Cml Regt 11-16 tos 17Co/4Bn ICC 2-17 WIA 3/4-12-17 L/hand & R/arm bomb reported in raid at Bald Hill T/att school at Rafa 2-18 T/att 16Co 5-18 T/att Cavalry school at Richon 6-18 prom Capt BSqn/15 LHR 7-18 to UK leave 5-19 Ex CSM 14R/9Bn (4439) prom 2/Lt 20-1-16 (SUS CMF 2 years later WWII Maj PSL)

REYNOLDS   Aubrey   582   Pte   6 LHR   A Sqn to prov Cpl 8-15 to L/Cpl 8-15 to T/Sgt 10-15 revert T/Cpl 10-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop (shown in RO's) 19-11-15 (G) to 2 LHTR 3-16 to Troop officer (1 double sqn) 7-16  att school of Instruction (Lewis Instructor MG course) Zeitoun 10-16 to MG officer 4 Cml Regt 11-16 to 17Co/4Bn ICC 2-17 MID - for beating off an attack during the night at Khuweilfe 6-11-17 WIA 28-3-18 both legs shot at Amman rtn 5-18 prom Capt ?Sqn/15 LHR 7-18 WIA 21-7-18 accidental injury R/elbow in horse fall rtn 7-18 att Cav school Richon 8-18 rtn 9-18 RTA 1914 leave

SWEETAPPLE   Arthur Henry   4   Sgt   10 LHR    C Sqn prom 2/Lt C Sqn C or D Troop? (from Jackson KIA) 7/8-8-15 (G) T/att school of Instruction (Lewis Instructor MG course) Zeitoun 10-16 shown C Sqn C Troop (see wifes letter dated 25-10-16) recom MID - for his actions at Magdhaba 23-12-16 MID - for his actions in taking command of C Sqn at 2nd Gaza 19-4-17 prom Capt 2ic A Sqn? (from dunckley) 4-17 shown officers patrol B Sqn 7-17 shown T/OC C Sqn suport 9 LHR around Esani 7-17 to DSqn/3 LHTR 8-17 rtn Adjt RHQ (from rosevear) 1-18 revert to hosp (pyrexia) 8-18 RTA MU debility (RHQ/25 LH CMF 4 years later WWII )

THOMPSON   Alfred Charles   2   RQMS   6 LHR   RHQ prom 2/Lt C Sqn A Troop (from Richardson) 14-6-15 to A/QM (possibly from Robson KIA) 9-15 (see letter Lt Buskin's file) (G) shown C Sqn A Troop 1-16 T/att escort to CTC Anzac MD HQ 4-16 att A/Adjt RHQ/6 LHR 6-16 rtn C Sqn possibly A Troop? 7-16 prom Capt T/OC B Sqn (from chisholm) 8-16 rtn 2ic C Sqn 10-16 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 10-16 rtn 11-16 to Staff Officer 4 LH Bde HQ 2-17 to DAA & QMG (DAAG) Imperial MD (from butchart) 3-17 rtn 2ic C Sqn 7-17 reported killed shot by sniper in Dhaheriyeh Hills at Khuweilfeh buried Beersheba War Cemetery Palestine (AFA to RAE to A&I Staff CMF)

TOOTH   Stewart Archibald   352   Troop Sgt   6 LHR   C Sqn B Troop (135) MID & Special Mention in Div Orders - for his actions recovering Pte's Ronald & Body wounded under fire at Holly Ridge 12-7-15 prom 2/Lt A Sqn A Troop 4-8-15 (G) prom Capt 2ic A Sqn (from Cross) 9-16 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 10-16 rtn 11-16 MID - reason not found possibly during Gaza shown A Sqn 4-17 recom MC awarded MID  - for his actions during the raid on Bald Hill 2-12-17 prom Maj OC A Sqn 1-18 DSO & MID - for his command during Amman Raid 28-3-18 shown OC B Sqn 9-18 to 2 LH Bde HQ rtn T/CO 2ic RHQ Ex C Troop C Sqn/6 LHR (135) DNE AKA Stuart Archibald Tooth (Boer War BSqn/1 ACH (161) (CMF to Maj RofO 1-7-20) brothers John 6 LHR KIA, Arthur 17Bn and Owen 6 LHR KIA

Nov 1916,

BEATON   Balfour   77   Sgt   11 LHR   A Sqn att DSqn/02 LHR 8-15 WIA 14-11-15 shoulder fractured not stated at old No 3 post evac to hosp 11-15 (G) rtn 02 LHR 1-16 rtn ASqn/11 LHR 2-16 prom 2/Lt possibly B Sqn? ? Troop (from Morgan) 30-7-16 shown with Maj Loynes OC A Sqn (Troop Lts Beaton and Hunter) 8-16 T/att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 11-16 to MG Course 1-17 to Sig officer RHQ (from Marsland) 1-17 rtn Qual MG instructor 2-17 to 67 Sqn (1 Sqn) AFC 6-17 to cadet 3 SMA Abbassia 8-17 att 193 Trg Sqn RFC at Aboukir 10-17 to 23 Trg Sqn RFC at Aboukir 10-17 to FO (obsver) B Flight 67 Sqn (1 Sqn) AFC 1-18 (1 victory) DFC - for his actions as observer during Sept to Dec 1918 att Instructor 20 Trg Wing 11-18 to UK leave 3-19 to NME UK wool classing AKA Edward Balfour Somerset Beaton born Natal South Africa

BLACK   Reginald   578   Pte   6 LHR   B Sqn to prov Cpl 7-15 to prov L/Sgt 9-15 revert 9-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn D Troop 28-9-15 (G) shown C Sqn B Troop 1-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 WIA 19-2-17 L/shoulder dislocated accident in football at Kantara rtn C Sqn possibly D Troop? 4-17 MC & MID - for his actions held his post at Hill 730 in operation around the Wadi Imleh 30/31-7-17 WIA 16-8-17 chest shot reported in skirmish at Hill 630 near Wadi Imleh (War diary Anzac MD reports he was shot at long range by a sniper) reported died at 65 CCS at Rafa buried Kantara War Memorial Cemetery Egypt father Reginald MLC

BRYANT   George Harry      Lt   11 LHR   C Sqn shown C Sqn 4 Troop (in Army lists dated 7-15) att DSqn/9 LHR 8-15 shown to Bde Bombing officer 11-15 (G) to MG officer MG Sect (from Kessels) 7-16 T/att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 11-16 to 4 LH MGS 2-17 prom Capt 5-17 to 2ic SHQ/1 LH MGS 6-17 to MG Trg Unit 12-17 RTA 3 weeks leave reemb 4 GSR tos CO SHQ/3 LH MGS 8-18 shown T/OC F Troop 9-18 recom MC awarded MID - for his work between Sept to Oct 1918 Ex Sgt C Sqn DNE prom 2/Lt (British 9th (Queen's Royal) Lancers 8 years) died 3-2-44 in house fire

CURRIE   James Thorn   348   Cpl   8 LHR   C Sqn WIA 29-6-15 L/shoulder shot reported 6 killed and 12 wounded during attack by the 18th Turkish Regt at the Nek rtn 8-15 to Sgt 8-15 to Orderly Room Sgt RHQ 9-15 (G) prom 2/Lt ? Sqn ? Troop (from AT Clark) 23-7-16 shown WIA 10-8-16 reported WIA 9-8-16 chest & L/shoulder shot at Hod el Bada near Bir el Abd rtn 9-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 WIA 23-12-16 L/shoulder/chest & Hip/buttock shot at Magdhaba RTA wounded disch 26-5-17 James Thorn Currie

DICKSON   Norman   104   Pte   6 LHR   A Sqn A Troop (746) to Cpl 8-15 to prov Sgt 9-15 prom 2/Lt D Sqn ? Troop (12 LHR) 14-11-15 (G) rtn A Sqn D Troop 2-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 shown A Sqn 4-17 att school of Instruction (hotchkiss instructor MG course) Zeitoun 7-17 rtn 8-17 to 2 LHTR 10-17 rtn 11-17 WIA 3-12-17 L/shoulder shrapnel in raid on Bald Hill rtn 2-18 T/att 67 Sqn (1 Sqn) AFC 4-18 to 2ic A Sqn 4-18 MC - for his actions as A/OC A Sqn around El Haud at Es Salt 4-5-18 att T/Adjt RHQ 6-18 to 11-18 prom Capt A Sqn 11-18 shown T/OC B Sqn (A column) 4-19 (CMF to RofO 1-1-21 later WWII Capt GSO (3) Trg AHQ to ANGAU Retired 1944) brother Herbert 15Bn/6 LHR

ELLWOOD   Robert Edward   508   Sgt   02 LHR   C Sqn shown A Sqn 5-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop (from Tiddy A Sqn) 30-6-15 (G) att WFF att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 3-16 rtn 4-16 possibly C Sqn B Troop? 7-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 to Adjt RHQ (from Wasson) 1-17 prom Capt (from Handley) 7-17 WIA 31-10-17 back shot at Beersheba to 1 LHTR 1-18 att school of Instruction (Musketry instructor & range finding course) Zeitoun 2-18 rtn 1 LHTR 4-18 rtn ? Sqn ? Troop 7-18 to hosp (debility) 9-18 rtn 11-18 RTA 1914 leave (prov 2/Lt C Troop CSqn/1 LH 1-4-14 to Lt 1-7-15 CMF 1 year to Maj 5 LH 31-3-21 to RofO 1-7-22 later WWII LtCol 5 LH) born 15-10-93

FARLOW   Frederick Garnet   227   Sgt   11 LHR   B Sqn att DSqn/05 LHR 8-15 (G) rtn B Sqn 2-16 to SSM B Sqn (from Hoffman) 4-16 prom 2/Lt C Sqn? ? Troop (from Bryant C Sqn 4 Troop) 29-7-16 shown under Maj Lee B Sqn (Troop Lts Stumm Koch Farlow Gee) as part of Smiths Colunm 8-16 recom MID - for his work in fighting at Bir el Aweidiya as part of Smiths Colunm 7-8-16 MC & MID - for his leading his Troop at Maghara 15-10-16 T/att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 11-16 recom - for his work on the Nakhl patrol 15/22-2-17 WIA 19-4-17 R/foot shot at 2nd Gaza rtn 7-17 T/att school of Instruction (officer general course) Zeitoun 4-18 reported killed in dismounted bayonet charge at Semakh buried Haifa War Cemetery Palestine brothers Harold and Merton ICC

GORDON   Leslie Arthur   465   Cpl   11 LHR   C Sqn to Sgt 6-15 att DSqn/9 LHR 8-15 reported one of last to leave Anzac from his Regt 20-12-15 (G) rtn 2-16 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop (from Ragless) 25-7-16 shown still C Sqn 10-16 T/att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 11-16 shown still C Sqn when his Troop rescued three airmen on Auja raid 5-17 (shown T/OC Capt Koch C Sqn Troop Lt's Clifford Hoffman Gordon Manning) on Auja raid 5-17 (OC Munro C Sqn Troop Lt's Gordon Wilson Hoffman Clifford) 10-17 recom MC & Legion of Honour 5th Class Chevalier awarded MID & Croix de Guerre (F) - for his actions at Kustine 12-11-17 and at Mesmiyeh 13-11-17 shown possibly B Sqn 5-18 WIA 3-5-18 minor reported during fighting on Table Top at Es Salt shown T/OC C Sqn (after Munro WIA) 5-18 shown possibly C Sqn ? Troop 7-18 to 4 LHTR 10-18 rtn possibly B Sqn (from McDonald) 11-18 shown to T/OC B Sqn 11-18 prom T/Capt T/OC & 2ic B Sqn (from Moyle) 2-19 later WWII

HIGGINS   Mervyn Bournes   78   Pte   8 LHR   C Sqn to Sgt 2-15 prom 2/Lt C Troop? 2-15 shown C Sqn 4 Troop (in Army lists dated 7-15) (shown WIA 7-8-15 in charge at the Nek in Simpson N/R in service file) prom T/Capt A/Adjt RHQ 9-15 recom Criox de Guerre (F) award MID - reason not stated & brought to the notice of Corps Commander for his good work on Anzac (G) prom Capt Adjt RHQ (from mitchell) 1-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 recom MC award MID - for his actions at Magdhaba reported killed shot advancing with RHQ at Magdhaba buried near centre buildings by chaplain Clarke reburied Kantara War Cemetery Egypt (British CSqn/King Edwards Horse (1511) 1907-09) (A Troop ASqn/29 LH CMF (568) member Melbourne Cricket Club son of Justice Higgins of Sunshine Harvester Case in 1907 with the notion of the Basic Wage

HOFFMAN   George Henry   226   Sgt   11 LHR   B Sqn att DSqn/05 LHR 8-15 WIA 11-11-15 minor (not stated) at Chathams Post WIA 19-12-15 L/arm shot minor reported during evacuation was part of the A3 party from Anzac (G) to SSM 1-16 rtn 2-16 to RSM RHQ 4-16 prom 2/Lt (from Lt Best B Sqn C Troop) 6-16 shown C Sqn ? Troop 7-16 T/att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 11-16 T/att School of Instruction (Hotchkiss Instructor MG course) Zeitoun 3-17 (shown T/OC Capt Koch C Sqn Troop Lt's Clifford Hoffman Gordon Manning) on Auja raid 5-17 to T/Adjt 4 LHTR 8-17 rtn T/Adjt RHQ 9-17 to T/2ic C Sqn 10-17 (OC Munro C Sqn Troop Lt's Gordon Wilson Hoffman Clifford) 10-17 recom MID - for his Troops action at Sheria 7-11-17 and at Kustine 13-11-17 att Adjt RHQ 2-18 rtn 3-18 RTA 4 weeks leave 4-18 rtn (shown war diary prom Capt 2ic A Sqn? from Capt Whitfield KIA) 9-18 prom Capt Adjt RHQ (from Capt Stumm to A Sqn) 10-18 rtn C Sqn 5-19 Ex 27 LHR DNE (4 IR CMF 4 years later WWII)

HOLLAND   Clive Edward   569   Pte   7 LHR   C Sqn to L/Cpl 2-15 WIA 22-5-15 R/foot shrapnel when C Sqn att 11Bn on Bolton's ridge evac to hosp Malta 6-15 rtn 9-15 to T/Cpl (from dunn) 10-15 (G) to SQMS 12-15 to RQMS RHQ 12-15 Serbian Cross of Kara George 1st class - reported for his work at Romani Aug 1916 prom 2/Lt A Sqn D Troop (from Ryan B Sqn C Troop WIA) 6-9-16 shown A Sqn D Troop (unit RO's) 11-16 T/att school of Instruction (20th officers general course) Zeitoun 11-16 MID - for his capture of LtCol Serif Bey and staff 53rd Turkish Div at 1st Gaza 26-3-17 and for the action with Lt Carter's Troop which captured a Turk patrol 24/25-4-17 to Adjt RHQ (from Davies) 6-17 T/att school of Instruction (hotchkiss MG course) Zeitoun 10-17 MID - reason not stated shown possibly B Sqn? 12-18 later WWII  

HOWARD   Stanley Frank   200   Pte   10 LHR   A Sqn C Troop? prom 2/Lt possibly A Sqn? B Troop? or C Troop? (from Turnbull KIA) 7-8-15 evac to hosp UK 4-9-15 (enteric) (G) rtn 3 LHTR 5-16 to Troop officer (3 double sqn) 7-16 to Troop officer 4 Cml Regt 11-16 att school of Instruction (20th officers general course) Zeitoun 11-16 to 18Co/4Bn ICC 2-17 T/att school of Instruction (Lewis Instructor MG course) Zeitoun 5-17 prom T/Capt T/OC 18Co (from kessels WIA) 11-17 MC - for his actions at Ras el Nagh 6-11-17 revert (rtn of kessels) 1-18 prom Capt (from goldenstedt) 2-18 to 13Co/3Bn (from Tree) 3-18 + bar to MC - for his actions at Amman 30-3-18 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 4-18 rtn OC 18Co (from kessels WIA) 5-18 to ASqn/15 LHR 7-18 to OC CSqn/5 LHTR 9-18

KOCH   William Francis Joseph      Lt   11 LHR   B Sqn shown B Sqn 2 Troop (in Army lists dated 7-15) att DSqn/05 LHR 8-15 WIA 3-9-15 L/leg bomb reported commanded party at Lone Pine rtn 10-15 (G) rtn 2-16 to C Sqn 4-16 rtn B Sqn 5-16 shown under Maj Lee B Sqn (Troop Lts Stumm Koch Farlow Gee) as part of Smiths Colunm 8-16 MID - reason not stated possible for his actions on patrol at Hod el Bayoud with Smith's Column 8-8-16 T/att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 11-16 prom Capt 2ic C Sqn (from Shearer) 3-17 shown T/OC C Sqn on Ajua Raid (Bailey WIA 2nd Gaza) 5-17 (OC Capt Koch Troop Lt's Clifford Hoffman Gordon Manning) to OC DSqn/4 LHTR (from Costello) 9-17 shown 3 weeks leave to UK 1-18 rtn shown T/OC A Sqn (from Loynes T/2ic RHQ) 2-18 shown T/Maj OC ? Sqn 4-18 revert 5-18 prom T/Maj OC C Sqn 7-18 shown OC C Sqn 9-18 prom Maj 10-18 to T/2ic RHQ 10-18 shown OC C Sqn 4-19 (Pte 1904 to Prov/2/Lt BSqn 16-5-13 CMF 9 years later WWII)

MACK   Frank Murgha   477   Sgt   01 LHR   C Sqn reported under Capt Grace NZEF formed the Snipers Band (marksman from 1 LH Bde) to fight Turkish snipers in Monash Valley WIA 1-7-15 groin injury in Monash Valley rtn 8-15 (P) prom 2/Lt A Sqn A Troop 11-8-15 (G) shown A Sqn A Troop 1-16 att WFF to 2ic A Sqn 8-16 recom MID - for his actions at Romani 4-8-16 to hosp (sprained ankle) 8-16 rtn 11-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 prom Capt 2ic C Sqn (from Burns) 2-17 to T/OC C Sqn 10-17 (possibly Lt's A Troop Parbury B Troop James C Troop Guthrie D Troop Ross) at Beersheba 10-17 to OC B Sqn 11-17 to 2ic B Sqn 1-18 (when Maj Ryrie returned) shown T/OC B Sqn 7-18 (while Maj Ryrie evac and Capt Mack on leave a few days later) to hosp (malaria) 8-18 to Dtls camp 11-18 rtn 12-18

MARKS   Frank Howard   340   SSM   6 LHR   C Sqn (455) to RSM RHQ 8-15 prom 2/Lt Transport Officer RHQ 28-9-15 (G) shown QM RHQ 1-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 shown RHQ 7-17 recom - for his actions under fire when Transport shelled near Hesia date not recorded? prom Capt BSqn/2 LHTR (from Menzies) 1-18 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 3-18 rtn 4-18 to 2ic possibly A Sqn? 4-18 RTA 1914 leave Ex Troop Sgt C Troop CSqn/6 LHR 10-14 DNE (Aust Horse 1899-1901 CMF 2 years) shown possibly Boer War service?

MENZIES   Stewart MacDonald   337   Troop Sgt   6 LHR   C Sqn A Troop or possibly D Troop 5-15 shown WIA 28-6-15 minor reported 5 wounded suporting raid on the Balkan Pitts or reported WIA 4-7-15 L/hand shot reported 1 wounded at No 1 Southern sect trenches near Holly Spur rtn 8-15 prom 2/Lt A Sqn C Troop 6-10-15 (G) rtn 2-16 to hosp (gastric) 8-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 T/att school of Instruction (hotchkiss MG course) Zeitoun 3-17 RTA 2 months leave relist 19R/12 LH tos DSqn/2 LHTR 9-17 rtn 6 LHR 1-18 prom Capt OC A Sqn (from Marks) 4-18 to 2 LHTR 6-18 to hosp (gastro) 8-18 rtn 2-19 to leave to Colombo on route home 6-19 (C Troop ASqn/5 LH CMF to Capt 12 LHR 1-1-19 to Maj 10-11-23 to LtCol 12/24 LH 1-5-37 retired 1943) father LtCol AG Menzies

MULLINER   William Alexander      2/Lt   8 LHR   11R tos A Sqn C Troop? 12-15 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 11-16 to AProvC APM Aust MD HQ 6-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 7-17 prom T/Capt (from armitage) 9-17 prom Capt (from walker) 11-17 to UK 3 weeks leave 5-18 rtn 7-18 to HQ Aust MD 8-18 to hosp (sandfly fever) 8-18 rtn 9-18 to DAPM HQ Aust MD 10-18 MID - for his work as APM during operations between Sept to Oct 1918 rtn 8 LHR 2-19 shown still DAPM with Aust MD HQ 3-19 to UK leave 5-19 Ex LH depot prom 2/Lt 7-15 (Boer War 85Co 22Bn Imperial Yeomanry (30727) and Sth African Constabulary AKA Charles Mullinger)

STOCK   Leslie Gardner      2/Lt   9 LHR   16R to 3 LHTR 6-16 to Troop officer (3 double sqn) 7-16 to CTU 11-16 att school of Instruction (grenade course) Zeitoun 11-16 tos 1Co/1Bn ICC 2-17 WIA 19-4-17 scalp, arms & R/hip shot in fighting at Tank redoubt at 2nd Gaza RTA wounded disch 3-1-18 fractured skull relist 1 draft staff I/C Italian Res To AIF Trg Bn UK 7-18 Ex Sgt ESqn/ LH depot att OCS 10-15 to 13R/9 LHR (3466) 11-15 att LH OCS 12-15 to 14R/9 LHR 1-16 prom 2/Lt 10-2-16 (1Sqn/16 LH SAMR CMF 2 years)
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THROSSELL   Frank Eric   64   Cpl   10 LHR    A Sqn to Sgt 5-15 WIA 7-8-15 chest shot in charge at the Nek evac to hosp 8-15 to hosp UK 10-15 (G) rtn 2-16 prom 2/Lt 3 LHTR 8-9-16 T/att school of Instruction (20th officers general course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn C Sqn D Troop 2-17 reported killed shot to head during fighting at Atawine Redoubt and body left on battlefield at 2nd Gaza no burial recorded later (believed buried in) buried Gaza War Cemetery Palestine brothers Hugo VC and Harry 5 Pnr Bn

WALKER   Young Hargreaves   470   Pte   8 LHR   C Sqn C Troop prom 2/Lt B Sqn? ? Troop 7-8-15 (G) shown C Sqn A Troop? 1-16 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 11-16 rtn 12-16 MC & MID - for his actions in capturing four Guns at Magdhaba 23-12-16 shown his patrol captured a 9 men post near Rafa 1-17 att water officer Anzac MD HQ 1-17 rtn 3-17 prom Capt B Sqn (from warne) 5-17 att water officer (Imperial) Aust MD HQ 6-17 rtn 7-17 to 3 LHTR 9-17 rtn 11-17 prom Maj OC B Sqn 11-17 shown OC B Sqn 12-16 T/att contact patrol reports 113 Sqn RFC at Sarona 4-18 shown OC B Sqn 5-18 recom bar to MC - for his actions at Es Salt 2/3-5-18 shown OC B Sqn 2-19 (B Troop ASqn/25 LH CMF 1 year)

Dec 1916,

BRIERTY   Alwyn Robert   229   Sgt   11 LHR   B Sqn att DSqn/05 LHR 8-15 (G) rtn 2-16 prom 2/Lt possibly C Sqn ? Troop (from Nobbs) 31-7-16 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 12-16 rtn 1-17 to 3 LHTR & 4 LHTR 2-17 T/att school of Instruction (25th officers course) Zeitoun 4-17 rtn to A Sqn C Troop 7-17 att school of Instruction (instructor Hotchkiss MG course) Zeitoun 9-17 (OC Alexander A Sqn Troop Lts Brierty Bartlett) 10-17 WIA 7-11-17 L/arm & R/leg shot shown MIA reported his Troop lost 11 killed and 8 wounded in charge at Khurbet Buteihah near Sheria & MC - for his actions at Khurbet Buteihah RTA wounded disch 27-2-19 amputated L/arm

CAMM   Richard Andrew   382   L/Cpl   03 LHR   C Sqn to T/Cpl 5-15 to Cpl (from tongs) 9-15 (G) to SQMS (from drake) 12-15 at WFF prom 2/Lt 12Co/3Bn 1-7-16 att school of Instruction (22nd officers general course) Zeitoun 12-16 rtn 1-17 to T/QM HQ/4Bn ICC 4-17 WIA 4-12-17 L/foot shot reported on raid at Bald Hill att 67 Sqn (1 Sqn) AFC 1-18 to 3 SMA heliopolis) 1-18 to (obsver) C Flight 67 Sqn (1 Sqn) AFC 3-18 WIA 4-6-18 L/wrist shot reported with Lt Tonkin (pilot) BF (B1276) brought down by German rumpler near Bireh on patrol to Damieh (3 victories) RTA wounded (C Troop BSqn/26 LH CMF later WWII Capt 2/2 Pnr Bn MID - for the action when killed during Lt Cutler's winning the VC in Syria) related Albert Camm and Son Richard 2/2 Pnr Bn was KIA after capture by the japs when his ship was sunk by US submarine

CLIFFORD   Charles Joseph   458   Sgt   11 LHR   C Sqn att DSqn/9 LHR 8-15 WIA 30-8-15 minor at Rhododendron Spur evac to hosp (tonsilits)10-15 (G) rtn 1-16 rtn 11 LHR 2-16 to T/RSM RHQ (from Hoffman) 7-16 prom 2/Lt C Sqn ? Troop (from McLennan) 16-7-16 att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 12-16 rtn 1-17 (shown T/OC Capt Koch C Sqn Troop Lt's Clifford Hoffman Gordon Manning) on Auja raid 5-17 att school of Instruction (topo course) Zeitoun 6-17 (OC Munro C Sqn Troop Lt's Gordon Wilson Hoffman Clifford) 10-17 MC - for his actions at Sheria 7-11-17 and at El Kustine & Mesmiyem 13-11-17 shown still C Sqn 1-18 shown Intell/scout officer to scout course at El Arish 3-18 rtn 4-18 shown as T/Sig officer & Scout/Intell officer RHQ 7-18 WIA 25-9-18 R/hand shot reported with sword smashed attacking Germans at Semakh + bar to MC - for his actions at Umm Esh Shert near Es Salt 29/30-4-18 and for his actions at Semakh 25-9-18 rtn posibly C Sqn ? Troop 11-18 shown as pay officer 12-18 att Regt records AIF HQ 2-19 rtn 6-19 shown B Sqn T/att A Sqn 3-19 shown att guide to offical photgrapher of Battlefields 4-19 (ECo SA IR CMF 2 years)

HAYDON   Guy Bloomfield   319   Sgt   12 LHR   B Sqn 3 Troop att DSqn/7 LHR 8-15 prom 2/Lt B Sqn 3 Troop (from Huxley WIA) 22-10-15 (G) rtn B Sqn 3 Troop (OC D'Arcy B Sqn Troop Lt's Hampton Hayden Abbott Lindeman) 2-16 att school of Instruction (officers general course) Zeitoun 12-16 to hosp (piles) 4-17 rtn 6-17  T/att Comp Sqn (OC Hyman 2ic M.Brown Troop Lts Haydon Abbott G.Brown Dobson) for Chavuel 7-17 shown possibly (OC Fetherstonhaugh B Sqn 2ic Davies Troop Lt's Lindeman Robey Haydon Abbott) 10-17 (B) WIA 31-10-17 L/buttock shot reported in charge at Beersheba RTA wounded disch 31-5-18 brother Barnard 12 LHR

KATER   Eric Stanley   574   Pte   01 LHR   A Sqn prom 2/Lt C Sqn D Troop 5-1-15 shown C Sqn D Troop in war dairy 5-15 shown C Sqn 4 Troop (in Army lists dated 7-15) (P) to Blue Sisters hosp Malta (ulcer) 8-15 to hosp UK 9-15 (G) rtn 6-16 to Orderly Officer ADC to Gen Cox 1 LH Bde HQ (from Burns) 6-16 recom - for his actions at Romani and Bir el Abd Aug 1916 rtn 12-16 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 12-16 rtn A/Adjt RHQ 1-17 prom Capt (from Weir) 15-2-17 to Adjt RHQ (from wadsworth) 2-17 to OC B Sqn 9-17 (Troop Lt's MacDonald Edwards Fawcett) at Beersheba 10-17 MC - for his actions at Khuweilfe 3-11-17 WIA 12-11-17 back/spine shot reported 11 wounded with Capt Kater and Lt Otton near Wadi El Khubb suporting Infantry attack on Burka RTA wounded disch 12-9-18 paralysis of legs

SHAW   Oliver John   493   Sgt   9 LHR    C Sqn to T/SSM C Sqn (from harvey to RSM) 8-15 shown WIA 16-9-15 at Rhododendron Ridge reported revert when evac to Intarfa hosp Malta (dysentry & piles) 9-15 (G) rtn to SSM 3 LHTR 3-16 rtn SSM C Sqn 7-16 prom 2/Lt Troop officer BSqn/3 LHTR 7-9-16 T/att school of Instruction (stokes gun course) Zeitoun 12-16 rtn A Sqn ? Troop 2-17 att school of Instruction (Topo course) Zeitoun 6-17 to A/Adjt RHQ (Wilkinson to Bde HQ) 8-17 to Adjt RHQ (from Wilkinson) 10-17 T/att AIF HQ Cairo 2-18 T/att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 2-18 MID - for his actions in the capture of 1300 prisoners at Duma near Damascus 2-10-18 to UK leave 6-19 to NME UK forstery Ex 1 Div Ammo Col (2896) DNE (Ranfurly Rifles Hawks Bay NZ TF 3 years)

WRIGHT   Frederick Charles Wentworth   208   L/Cpl   01 LHR   A Sqn to Cpl 1-15 WIA 15-5-15 R/arm shrapnel reported 1 killed and 4 wounded suporting CSqn/2 LHR raid at Quinns post (NP) rtn 8-15 to T/SSM A Sqn (from Wisken) 8-15 prom 2/Lt C Sqn D Troop? (from Kater) 14-9-15 (G) to hosp (typhoid and enteric) 1-16 RTA enteric reemb 20R to Troop officer 1 LHTR (from Otten) 9-16 att school of Instruction (instructor MG course) Zeitoun 12-16 rtn 1-17 rtn B Sqn ? Troop 2-17 prom Capt 2ic B Sqn (from Ryrie) 6-17 MID - reason not stated WIA 3-11-17 both buttocks shot at Khuweilfeh to ADC to Gen Chaytor Anzac MD HQ (from Ryrie) 1-18 reported recom Order of the Nile 4th Class N/R

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