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« on: 11 February 2018, 09:25:37 am »

Jeff,

Another for your interest?


Lt Beath is shown WIA by Simpson, but I don't see it, can you find any details on this?

BEATH   Herbert Henry   39   SSM   8 LHR   A Sqn prom 2/Lt A Sqn ? Troop 7-8-15 shown in Simpson WIA 19-9-15 at Canterbury Slope N/R? (G) shown T/OC A Sqn 1-16 prom Capt 2ic B Sqn (from hoare) 2-16 shown to C Sqn 3-16 rtn OC A Sqn 7-16 WIA 9-8-16 injured in horse fall after being shot at Bir el Abd att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 10-16 rtn 11-16 to OC DSqn/3 LHTR 2-17 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 5-17 rtn 6-17 disch 7-12-17 reported SNLR with Lt Oliver died TB at Caulfield Vic (Boer War Sth African Constabulary and Royston's Horse Natal Rebelion 1906)

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« Reply #1 on: 14 February 2018, 11:36:01 am »

Hi Steve,

I presume you have accessed Bert Heath’s Service Record, that will give you the confirmation of his war service.
Cameron Simpson has got it wrong for his wounding on the 19th Sept at Canterbury Slope, 2nd Lt. Heath was there, but evacuated to Egypt with Bronchitis and Dysentry on the 19th August onboard the H.S. “Guildford Castle”.  He arrived at Alexandria on the 23rd August and admitted to No. 1New Zealand Stationary Hospital at Sues on the 24th. He never returned to duty on Gallipoli.
There are two dates given in his Service Record for his promotion to Squadron Sergeant Major, the 3rd October and the 28th October 1914.
The 3rd Oct had me puzzled as the 8th LH had not come into being by that date, but the Service Record entry gives the Routine Order No. 5. I only have copies of the Routine Orders from No. 31, being the 29th Oct. a back count gives the 3rd as the correct date for number 5. As such, I have entered Heath as promoted to acting SSM for the 6th LH. The 8th LH Regt officially formed on the 17th Oct, which makes Heath’s promotion to SSM “A” Sqdn on the 28th also correct.
From what I can see, the rest of the details you have submitted are correct.

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« Reply #2 on: 15 February 2018, 09:28:26 am »

Jeff,

Thank you, always good to get your imput.

Yes I did readjust his record to show he was in hosp

BEATH   Herbert Henry   39   SSM   8 LHR   A Sqn prom 2/Lt A Sqn ? Troop 7-8-15 evac to (1 NZ SH) hosp (dysentry) 8-15 att rear Dtls 9-15 shown in Simpson WIA 19-9-15 at Canterbury Slope N/R? (G) rtn 12-15 shown T/OC A Sqn 1-16 prom Capt 2ic B Sqn (from hoare) 2-16 shown to C Sqn 3-16 rtn OC A Sqn 7-16 WIA 9-8-16 injured after horse being shot and fall on him in action at Bir el Abd att school of Instruction (cavalry course) Zeitoun 10-16 rtn 11-16 att transport duty Kantara 1-17 to OC DSqn/3 LHTR 2-17 att school of Instruction (unknown course) Zeitoun 5-17 rtn 6-17 to hosp (gastro) 8-17 to 3 LHTR 10-17 RTA disch 7-12-17 reported SNLR with Lt Oliver died TB at Caulfield Vic (Boer War Sth African Constabulary and Royston's Horse Natal Rebelion 1906)


I thought Simpson had seen something not in his records to give that comment?

Mate by the way did you find what Troop in A Sqn he took over post the Nek?

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« Reply #3 on: 15 February 2018, 08:19:13 pm »

Steve,

The information on Bert Heath is a dit sparse, but from what I have found it would appear that he was originally in “A” Troop, “A” Sqdn. After his promotion to 2nd Lt on the 7th August it would seem that he was OC “A” Troop, “A” Sqdn for the 8th LH party that went out to Destryer Hill on the 9th August, this is confirmed by Sgt Ernie Mack who was 2nd in command of the party.
The 8th LH War Dairy of the 15/8/1915 states that 2nd Lt Heath was appointed OC “A” Troop, “B” Sqdn. This is confirmed by 2nd Lt Edward Wilson OC “D” Troop, “B” Sqdn on the 17/8/15.

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« Reply #4 on: 16 February 2018, 08:36:10 am »

Jeff,

thanks again I always lean some thing new talking to you.

I had Ernie Mack down as B Sqn ? Troop on his prom after the Nek 7 Aug 1915, and Ed Wilson down as C Sqn ? Troop.

I surpose we could spend some days looking into the post Nek proms in both LH Regts (8th and 10th).

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